Williams Wonder

[Dandaweedman]

If you find an old one let me know please. Be interested in growing one out myself.
See how close it is to the F1s we grew out.

 

[Dandaweedman]

STANDARD SMOKE REPORT V1.0


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IDENTIFICATION
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abbreviations and with spaces where appropriate. Use username, company
name or anon for the breeder and grower fields as appropriate.

Judge: [Dandaweedman]
Date: [June 03/2019]
Strain: [Williams Wonder]
Breeder:[SSSC]
Grower: [Dandaweedman]


If available enter the links to the following threads:

Grow Report: [https://www.thecannacabana.com/forums/showthread.php?39788-Williams-Wonder&p=1458520#post1458520]
Breeder Report: []
Related thread: []
Cured bud photo:[]


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PHYSICAL EXAMINATION
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1. __[8]__ Visual Appeal

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2. __[6]__ Visible Trichomes

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3. Use an X to indicate the colors that are present in the trichome
heads under magnification or list the percentages of each color for
a more precise report. Leave these fields blank if you do not have
a powerful magnifier.

Clear [10]
Cloudy [80]
Amber [10]
Dark []


4. Mark with X the colors that are present in the buds or for a more
detailed color analysis rate presence on a scale 1-9 light-dark.

Brown []
Green [x]
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5. __[1-7]__ Bud density

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not in their natural state leave this field blank.


6. Use numbers 1-9 on descriptors that apply to the aroma of freshly
broken bud where a one indicates a subtle presence and 9 indicates
a pronounced presence. Delete the existing space when marking a
descriptor in order to maintain the columns in alignment.

* I marked all that we smelled out of all the females
Ammonia [ ] Earthy [x ] Licorice [ ] Peach [ ]
Berry [x ] Floral [ ] Mango [ ] Pepper [ ]
Blueberry [ ] Fruit [ ] Meat [ ] Petroleum [ ]
Bubblegum [ ] Grape [ ] Melon [ ] Pine [ x]
Cedar [ ] Grapefruit[ ] Menthol [ ] Pineapple [ ]
Cherry [ ] Grass/Hay [ ] Mint [ ] Rotten [ ]
Chocolate [ ] Hash [ x] Mold [ ] Skunk [ x]
Citrus [ ] Iron/Rust [ ] Musk [ ] Spice [ ]
Coconut [ ] Leather [ ] Nutmeg [ ] Strawberry[ ]
Coffee [ ] Lemon [ ] Orange [ ] Vanilla [ ]


7. __[7]__ Aroma

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bud for best results.


8. __[0]__ Seed content

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9. __[6]__ Weeks cured

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If desired repeat SSR after an additional two weeks of curing.


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THE SMOKE TEST
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1. Please use a clean instrument for the evaluation. Enter information
below that will identify the instrument as follows:

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Other []


2. Use numbers 1-9 on descriptors that apply to the taste where a one
indicates a subtle presence and a nine indicates a very pronounced
presence. Delete the existing space when marking a descriptor in
order to maintain the columns in alignment.

Ammonia [ ] Earthy [6 ] Licorice [ ] Peach [ ]
Berry [ 4] Floral [ ] Mango [ ] Pepper [ ]
Blueberry [ ] Fruit [ ] Meat [ ] Petroleum [ ]
Bubblegum [ ] Grape [ ] Melon [ ] Pine [ ]
Cedar [ ] Grapefruit[ ] Menthol [ ] Pineapple [ ]
Cherry [ ] Grass/Hay [ ] Mint [ ] Rotten [ ]
Chocolate [ ] Hash [ 7] Mold [ ] Skunk [ 5]
Citrus [ ] Iron/Rust [ ] Musk [ ] Spice [ ]
Coconut [ ] Leather [ ] Nutmeg [ ] Strawberry[ ]
Coffee [ ] Lemon [ ] Orange [ ] Vanilla [ ]

If appropriate return to this question after 5-10 minutes and mark
with X any unmarked descriptors for lingering aftertaste.


3. __[3]__ Taste

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4. __[6]__ State of dryness

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5. __[8]__ Smoke ability

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6. __[5]__ Smoke expansion

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FOLLOW UP QUESTIONS
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1. __[half joint]__ Dosage

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2. __[2]__ Effect onset

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3. __[4]__ Sativa influence

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influence is best described as a clear and energetic mental effect.


4. __[6]__ Indica influence

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influence is best described as a sedative, lethargic or numbing
effect that affects the body.


5. __[9]__ Potency

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6. __[2]__ Duration

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7. __[2]__ Tolerance build up

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field blank if you have not used this sample repeatedly.


8. Usability

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to consume this strain and a nine represents the ideal time of day.
Leave field(s) blank if you have not yet formed an opinion.

Morning - wake up [3]
Day - work [1]
Evening - relax [9]
Night - sleep [7]


9. __[9]__ Overall satisfaction

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10. __[9]__ Ability and conditions

. Rate your overall ability to judge from 1-10 low-high. Consider
experience, strain familiarity, atmosphere, current tolerance and
most importantly the condition and preparation of the sample.


11.Judging from the sample alone do you personally consider this
strain a keeper for long term use?

Yes [x]
No []


12.Rate the noticable effects on a scale of 1-9 mild-severe. Take
care to use the appropriate column for your response. Delete the
existing space when recording your entry to maintain the columns
in alignment. In all cases these casual observations should not
be construed as medical advice.


Negative Positive
Effect Effect

__[ ]__ __[ ]__ Appetite
__[ ]__ __[x ]__ Anxiety relief
__[ ]__ __[ ]__ Paranoia relief
__[ ]__ __[ ]__ Sex drive
__[ ]__ __[ ]__ Sleep
__[ ]__ __[ ]__ Pain relief
__[ ]__ __[x ]__ Ability to rest or sit still
__[ ]__ __[ ]__ Thought process
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__[ ]__ __[ ]__ Imagination/creativity
__[ ]__ __[x ]__ Humor perception
__[ ]__ __[ ]__ Visual perception
__[ ]__ __[ ]__ Audio perception
__[ ]__ __[ x]__ Taste perception



EXTENDED MEDICAL SURVEY (optional)

Negative Positive
Effect Effect

__[ ]__ __[ ]__ Alcoholism/Alcohol Abuse
__[ ]__ __[ ]__ Allergic rhinitis
__[ ]__ __[ ]__ Amphetamine Dependence
__[ ]__ __[ ]__ Anorexia
__[ ]__ __[ ]__ Arthritis/Musculoskeletar pain
__[ ]__ __[ ]__ Asthma/Cough
__[ ]__ __[ ]__ Bipolar disorder
__[ ]__ __[ ]__ Cancer/Cancer Chemotherapy
__[ ]__ __[ ]__ Chronic fatigue
__[ ]__ __[ ]__ Depression
__[ ]__ __[ ]__ Diarrhea
__[ ]__ __[ ]__ Drusen of Optic Nerve
__[ ]__ __[ ]__ Epilepsy
__[ ]__ __[ ]__ Glaucoma
__[ ]__ __[ ]__ Hiccough
__[ ]__ __[ ]__ High blood pressure/Racing pulse
__[ ]__ __[ ]__ Insomnia
__[ ]__ __[ ]__ Itching
__[ ]__ __[ ]__ Migraine/vascular headache
__[ ]__ __[ ]__ Muscle Spasm
__[ ]__ __[ ]__ Muscular movement disorders
__[ ]__ __[ ]__ Nausea
__[ ]__ __[ ]__ Panic Attacks
__[ ]__ __[ ]__ Peripheral nerve pain
__[ ]__ __[ ]__ Post traumatic Stress Disorder
__[ ]__ __[ ]__ Pre Menstrual Syndrome
__[ ]__ __[ ]__ Sedative/Opiate Dependence
__[ ]__ __[ ]__ Schizophrenia
__[ ]__ __[ ]__ SLE - systemic lupus erythematosus
__[ ]__ __[ ]__ Spasticity in Multiple Sclerosis


FINAL COMMENTS:
A strong good yielding strain.


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[farmerlion]

Haven’t had a herm from any of mine yet, at least without a light leak.
Our mom went airy on us, airy-er? Stone was the same etc but the buds weren’t as solid as they used to be.
Thought maybe it was the bulb but nope.

I’ve got seed from three of these types of runs.
All SSSC Williams Wonder from start to finish.
But we were lucky enough to get seed to start with all those years ago and haven’t had to use a fake male to sell seeds called Williams Wonder.
Ahem ;)

Not saying any breeder would stoop to that. Or am I?

Dandaweedman,
I'm new here and I'm not familiar with who is really who here yet. You mentioned the sale of untainted Williams Wonder, I would be interested in adding a pack of those to my library.

Have you tested them in a greenhouse? A couple friends of mine are pooling some rare genetics with myself and doing a hybrid cross with one selected male from 2 or 3 strains for a male. Using 6 to 8 elegant landrace and hybrid cross females of years gone by for the new hybrid f1 crosses being done in my greenhouse this summer. Some males and females are being selected indoors right now. Good Williams Wonder could be interesting ?
Can you Pm me with the website?
Thanks farmerlion

 

[Freakshow]

there's a seed company out of canada that has the original Williams Wonder from the Super Sativa Seed Club...... I would start there..

 

[digger]

Dandaweedman,
I'm new here and I'm not familiar with who is really who here yet. You mentioned the sale of untainted Williams Wonder, I would be interested in adding a pack of those to my library.

Have you tested them in a greenhouse? A couple friends of mine are pooling some rare genetics with myself and doing a hybrid cross with one selected male from 2 or 3 strains for a male. Using 6 to 8 elegant landrace and hybrid cross females of years gone by for the new hybrid f1 crosses being done in my greenhouse this summer. Some males and females are being selected indoors right now. Good Williams Wonder could be interesting ?
Can you Pm me with the website?
Thanks farmerlion

It's been almost four years since Dan last was here.

 

[farmerlion]

It's been almost four years since Dan last was here.

Thanks digger. That's one of the many things there is to learn about each site. At a different but still private site, some members show up often and other's drop in as they feel.

I certainly have spurts of action and inactivities. Part of me wants to share my research and an evaluation of the differences between medical and recreational users, avails much. Most recreational cannabis users will smoke weed grown at Chernobyl if it gets them high and has a catchy name. While true medical users tend to want the highest quality fluorescence but don't have the knowledge to know what constitutes the difference.

This is a long thank you that has a tangent. This being a former private site with arms that reach into both worlds of recreational cannabis and medical cannabis.

Does it matter to anyone here on how your genetics are grown for your growing?

Does it matter to anyone here how your genetics are grown for personal use?

Does anybody really want to learn at a scientific level how plants (cannabis) really feeds, and reproduces phenotypic expressions as a direct impact from it's environmental conditions?

I guess I ask this to determine to what level I choose to be involved. I enjoy teaching very much, but to only fall on deaf ears I can save the risk to my freedom and liberties and do as Dandaweedman has done and enjoy peace and security.

Peace farmerlion

 

[CurbsideServ]

Thanks digger. That's one of the many things there is to learn about each site. At a different but still private site, some members show up often and other's drop in as they feel.

I certainly have spurts of action and inactivities. Part of me wants to share my research and an evaluation of the differences between medical and recreational users, avails much. Most recreational cannabis users will smoke weed grown at Chernobyl if it gets them high and has a catchy name. While true medical users tend to want the highest quality fluorescence but don't have the knowledge to know what constitutes the difference.

This is a long thank you that has a tangent. This being a former private site with arms that reach into both worlds of recreational cannabis and medical cannabis.

Does it matter to anyone here on how your genetics are grown for your growing?

Does it matter to anyone here how your genetics are grown for personal use?

Does anybody really want to learn at a scientific level how plants (cannabis) really feeds, and reproduces phenotypic expressions as a direct impact from it's environmental conditions?

I guess I ask this to determine to what level I choose to be involved. I enjoy teaching very much, but to only fall on deaf ears I can save the risk to my freedom and liberties and do as Dandaweedman has done and enjoy peace and security.

Peace farmerlion

I think you should share more of your tech and try and get them interested...

 

[Freakshow]

well wh

Thanks digger. That's one of the many things there is to learn about each site. At a different but still private site, some members show up often and other's drop in as they feel.

I certainly have spurts of action and inactivities. Part of me wants to share my research and an evaluation of the differences between medical and recreational users, avails much. Most recreational cannabis users will smoke weed grown at Chernobyl if it gets them high and has a catchy name. While true medical users tend to want the highest quality fluorescence but don't have the knowledge to know what constitutes the difference.

This is a long thank you that has a tangent. This being a former private site with arms that reach into both worlds of recreational cannabis and medical cannabis.

Does it matter to anyone here on how your genetics are grown for your growing?

Does it matter to anyone here how your genetics are grown for personal use?

Does anybody really want to learn at a scientific level how plants (cannabis) really feeds, and reproduces phenotypic expressions as a direct impact from it's environmental conditions?

I guess I ask this to determine to what level I choose to be involved. I enjoy teaching very much, but to only fall on deaf ears I can save the risk to my freedom and liberties and do as Dandaweedman has done and enjoy peace and security.

Peace farmerlion

well when certain old strains are bastardized by crossing with other strains then put on the market as the original, yes it really pisses me off. I want the original......... period
call me a purist. I don't want the watered down version of good strains......

 

[farmerlion]

well wh

well when certain old strains are bastardized by crossing with other strains then put on the market as the original, yes it really pisses me off. I want the original......... period
call me a purist. I don't want the wtaered down version of good strains......

Freakshow, sometimes genetics are only shared with stipulations. You might not have any qualms with disregarding earned integrity and trust, that isn't even a consideration for me and I know Nannymouse stands firm in her promises too.

You have also completely judged unknown genetics as bastardized and watered down?

How do you defend such an assumption? You might have been here a long time, thank you for showing me who you really are.

Put on the market as an original? Really! That was never stated by anyone but you...


Peace farmerlion

 

[Freakshow]

Freakshow, sometimes genetics are only shared with stipulations. You might not have any qualms with disregarding earned integrity and trust, that isn't even a consideration for me and I know Nannymouse stands firm in her promises too.

You have also completely judged unknown genetics as bastardized and watered down?

How do you defend such an assumption? You might have been here a long time, thank you for showing me who you really are.

Put on the market as an original? Really! That was never stated by anyone but you...


Peace farmerlion

this, my friend, comes with the past (and real) disappointment of enjoying a smoke only to find out that when i try to find seeds, there's 14 different people trying to profit from said strain by crossing the original strain with something else and selling those seeds, with the same name as the original strain without stating that the original strain has been crossed with something else. Its not the strain it's named after but something different. This is very dishonest and I don't want to do business with people like that. Gypsy Nirvana did it back in the early 2000's. He took the best strains and crossed them with Skunk #1 and put them out as his own. I find that sad.
I don't mean to offend you. I hope this post clears up my thoughts o this for you. I'm not pointing YOU out perse, however there are a lot of folks out there that do this and I've been burned a few times....

I'm also answering your Question: YES it does matter to me where my genetics come from.

 

[Butcher Bob]

You start by insulting both rec and med users...

"Most recreational cannabis users will smoke weed grown at Chernobyl if it gets them high and has a catchy name. While true medical users tend to want the highest quality fluorescence but don't have the knowledge to know what constitutes the difference."

Then you ask for folks opinions...and when you get one, you insult them too...

"You might not have any qualms with disregarding earned integrity and trust..."

You sure have a funny way of teaching, but I think I'm learning...just not aboot cannabis.

 

[Freakshow]

and another note: It absolutely matters how the buds are grown. Shysters don't properly flush their plants at the end of flower want t get their buds sold ASAP to whatever poor schmuck that will buy them. the end result is a chemmy tasting flower that burns back and gooey, grostesque and possibly poisonous. Whereas someone that actually cares about the final product will flush their plants to the point of the flower smoking smooth, clean, very pleasantly flavorful, not tasting like they've been sprayed with fake terpenes either.

I run a very responsible underground business and my client know the difference between my buds and imports. I sleep well at night KNOWING that I am not poisoning anyone and if I have bud that doesn't meet MY standards, it's doesn't get sold.....

I treat cannabis like a fine wine. where the grapes are grown to European standards and the wine is made to European standards.

 

[nannymouse]

@farmerlion grows very 'organically'. He makes many crosses, but there's nothing unusual about that. I've never seen that he claims a cross is 'the pure'. The methods make for a product that is far tastier than what i have done. He treats his plants well, too.

 

[Freakshow]

i never claimed that he did anything. I was just explaining my own experience and point

 

[farmerlion]

You start by insulting both rec and med users...

"Most recreational cannabis users will smoke weed grown at Chernobyl if it gets them high and has a catchy name. While true medical users tend to want the highest quality fluorescence but don't have the knowledge to know what constitutes the difference."

Then you ask for folks opinions...and when you get one, you insult them too...

"You might not have any qualms with disregarding earned integrity and trust..."

You sure have a funny way of teaching, but I think I'm learning...just not aboot cannabis.

In the post directly below yours, Freakshow explains exactly what's wrong with the recreational cannabis industry. Sadly Freakshow thinks that chemicals can be flushed out of plants, this is impossible and one of hundreds of things I was considering to teach.

Butcher Bob do you find truth insulting? Obviously you and Freakshow both don't know near as much as you have clearly displayed. If you keep getting burned, whose fault is it really?

If you knew what I know about how cannabis plants actually feed. You would be sitting on your SOAPBOX not standing on it. I have yet to learn anything while talking...I asked if anyone was actually interested in taking their knowledge to the next level.

With this formerly being a private site, there is several growers that have maxed out their skill sets and reached the top as they understand it. I'm not on Instagram for a reason (loaded with ignorance) and I gain nothing by sharing information. Butcher Bob I don't care about your feelings; I'm not interested in changing your panties or wiping your snotty nose.

I don't sell cannabis in any form. I have always fully donated my work and the money I do raise through other avenues gets fully donated to a breast cancer charity that I started. I have not taken a wage out of that charity.

CurbsideServ has worked very hard on this site, such a shame that a few people are so quick to crap all over his hard work. I have decided that this isn't a place for free minded thinkers or a place to cultivate growth of an industry.

My information can be deleted from this site.
Peace farmerlion

 

[CurbsideServ]

@farmerlion I will happily delete you Information, been nothing but arrogant and rude to our members since you showed up! @Freakshow and @Butcher Bob are cabana OG’s been here from the early years. Don’t get to come in there house and preach to them!

 

[kushyman]

..maybe everyone relax..

farmerlion is a pretty nice guy..no one is perfect all the time..

I know Butcher Bob isn’t gonna get upset over anyones comments..

but also

flushing “smushing”...if it needs to be flushed its not been grown right

ps

there is no zealot like a newly organic zealot...[me]

"all my buds taste like smoking beautiful clouds"

yeh lets laugh and get on with life..

 

[kushyman]

"Most recreational cannabis users will smoke weed grown at Chernobyl if it gets them high and has a catchy name.

arguably true..especially the name

While true medical users tend to want the

highest quality fluorescence

wtf is this..? [never mind]....I don’t want it in my herb..[joke]

but don't have the knowledge to know what constitutes the difference."

...if ya smoke what the dispensaries don't sell ..

thats the good stuff..

if the first descriptive word used is”loud"....you will be asleep 20 minutes later [joke]

 

[Butcher Bob]

In the post directly below yours, Freakshow explains exactly what's wrong with the recreational cannabis industry. Sadly Freakshow thinks that chemicals can be flushed out of plants, this is impossible and one of hundreds of things I was considering to teach.

Butcher Bob do you find truth insulting? Obviously you and Freakshow both don't know near as much as you have clearly displayed. If you keep getting burned, whose fault is it really?

If you knew what I know about how cannabis plants actually feed. You would be sitting on your SOAPBOX not standing on it. I have yet to learn anything while talking...I asked if anyone was actually interested in taking their knowledge to the next level.

With this formerly being a private site, there is several growers that have maxed out their skill sets and reached the top as they understand it. I'm not on Instagram for a reason (loaded with ignorance) and I gain nothing by sharing information. Butcher Bob I don't care about your feelings; I'm not interested in changing your panties or wiping your snotty nose.

I don't sell cannabis in any form. I have always fully donated my work and the money I do raise through other avenues gets fully donated to a breast cancer charity that I started. I have not taken a wage out of that charity.

CurbsideServ has worked very hard on this site, such a shame that a few people are so quick to crap all over his hard work. I have decided that this isn't a place for free minded thinkers or a place to cultivate growth of an industry.

My information can be deleted from this site.
Peace farmerlion

Ah nice, more insults....narcissism at it's finest.

Yes, Curbside has been doing a wonderful job. And out of respect for him and his efforts, I will refrain from further down dressing your behavior...you make it very evident without needing me to point it out.

But if you'd like to carry on, there's always the shark tank...er, I mean myplanetganja.com.

I know Butcher Bob isn’t gonna get upset over anyones comments..

Indeed...water off a duck's back.

 

[CurbsideServ]

When some asks to removed, I will show them the door. Farmerlion may have some interesting tech but all he has done hint at it, never shared any actual info and has been nothing but extremely critical to everyone applying different methods.