Powdery Mildew

Never tried that product MORC but Oxidate works great on PM..since I only grow outdoors these days I've never found anything that totally knocks out mold..
 
Wettable sulfur, .3 microns is best but .4-.5 works too. Also is being used for broad mite control.
 
i appreciate the input and i agree with you Annaba about most not reading / following the instruction, just wanted to pass info along b/c ive seen many posts about pm and it doesnt hurt to know how to treat something if it ever hits my garden.


peace
 
When it does appear, I just use baking soda, 1tbs per gal. From what I’ve read, your just looking to change the PH on the leaf surface.
 
keep in mind that PM is a systemic fungus, meaning it's throughout the entire plant. It only presents on the leaf surface. if you make the leaf surface hostile for this presentation, such as changing the ph of the surface with sulfur or baking soda, your plant will still have PM, yiu just won't be able to see it on the leaves.
 
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keep in mind that PM is a system fungus, meaning it's throughout the entire plant. It only presents on the leaf surface. if you make the leaf surface hostile for this presentation, such as changing the ph of the surface with sulfur or baking soda, your plant will still have PM, yiu just won't be able to see it on the leaves.

I have a contaminated KQ cut that I've been growing. It shows up in flower every time. No matter what I do to it....

What if any is there a way to get it out of its system?

Willing to hit it with whatever it takes to get rid of it.
 
Yes that’s what was recommend. I’m using Bonide because it’s available locally and it’s done me well. It leaves a residue on the leaves for a while but the plants don’t seem to mind at all. I haven’t used it flower.
 
I have a contaminated KQ cut that I've been growing. It shows up in flower every time. No matter what I do to it....

What if any is there a way to get it out of its system?

Willing to hit it with whatever it takes to get rid of it.

there's a fungicide called Eagle 20EW that works very well. It's what is used on golf courses.

https://www.domyown.com/eagle-20ew-specialty-fungicide-p-1359.html

great website too. called Do mY Own Pest Control. You can get anything there. Avid. Forbid, etc.

Never spray your plants with this when they are in flower. Spray in veg and let the mother sit. I believe the half life for this stuff is 30-6- days or something like that. So spray you mother plant, and let her sit for a month or two before taking clones. The schtuff very very well.
 
eagle 20ew is for turf and ornamental not food crops. Sovran is for use on food crops, it is a lot more $$$ than eagle 20, but i think it is safer for human consumption. I absolutely recommend reading msds on both then make your decision:D

2b2s
 
eagle 20ew is for turf and ornamental not food crops. Sovran is for use on food crops, it is a lot more $$$ than eagle 20, but i think it is safer for human consumption. I absolutely recommend reading msds on both then make your decision:D

2b2s

yes that is true, but if you don't take cuts from that mother plant for a couple months, you'll be fine

actually, Eagle can be sprayed on apples, grapes, and stone fruits.

and, taken from the Domyown website: Eagle 20EW Specialty Fungicide is a systemic fungicide that stays in the plant for 2-4 weeks.


that's even better than i initially thought
 
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Eagle 20 and Myclobutanil in the Context of Cannabis Cultivation and Consumption

Overview
On March 23rd, several Denver-based marijuana grow operations were ordered to quarantine plants after it was determined they were treated with Eagle 20, a fungicidal pesticide (1). Myclobutanil-based fungicides, including Eagle 20, are applied to a wide range of edible agricultural products (grapes, apples, spinach, etc). When applied correctly, myclobutanil is known to have low toxicity to humans. Myclobutanil-based fungicides, including Eagle 20EW, are not currently approved for use in the United States on tobacco, the only (other than marijuana) smokable agricultural commodity. The toxicity and health effects of myclobutanil in the context of combustion/inhalation (versus ingestion) have not been assessed.

The following analysis summarizes some of the known chemical and physical properties of myclobutanil, and highlights the potential health implications of using this chemical on marijuana.

Mode of Action
Myclobutanil is the active ingredient in several brands of pesticides, including Eagle 20EW. Myclobutanil works by blocking a key enzyme involved in fungal cell membrane synthesis, leading to abnormal cell growth and eventual death of the fungal pathogen (2) Myclobutanil is a systemic fungicide, meaning it is absorbed at the site of application (ex. leaf) and distributed throughout the rest of the plant, thereby providing more comprehensive protection from fungal infection (2). As a systemic chemical, myclobutanil cannot be removed by washing treated crops, although residue will decrease in plant tissues over time. The final remaining residue levels vary considerably and are highly dependent on the rate of application, the time of last application before harvest, and how well the specific plant clears the chemical from its system.

Myclobutanil Tolerance Levels
The Environmental Protection Agency is responsible for regulating the pesticides used by growers to protect crops and for setting limits on the amount of pesticides that may remain in or on foods marketed in the USA. These limits on pesticides left on foods are called "tolerances" in the U.S (3).

The EPA establishes tolerances or each pesticide based on the potential risks to human health posed by that pesticide, using actual or estimated residue data, as well non-human toxicity studies, to reflect real-world exposure as closely as possible (3).

Tolerance levels for myclobutanil were established for exposure via inhalation, absorption through the skin during pesticide application to crops, and ingestion of agricultural commodities treated with myclobutanil. Myclobutanil absorbed by the most common route, dietary exposure, is metabolized by gut enzymes and the liver prior to entering the bloodstream (4,5). Myclobutanil absorbed via inhalation enters the bloodstream directly via the lungs.

I. The human health effects from the combustion and inhalation of myclobutanil have not been evaluated
Tolerance levels and toxicity studies for myclobutanil on edible products should not be used for evaluating the safety of myclobutanil on marijuana. Passage of pesticides into the bloodstream varies considerably between inhalation and ingestion routes of exposure, and the application of high temperature is known to alter the chemical composition of myclobutanil. Unfortunately, very little information is available to evaluate myclobutanil in the context of tobacco use, as Eagle 20 and myclobutanil-based fungicides are not approved for use on tobacco plants in the United States (6,7). Myclobutanil is approved for use on tobacco cultivated in China, however, and a 2012 study has demonstrated that 10% or more of the active pesticide remains on tobacco leaves up to 21 days after treatment, with residue present from 0.85 parts per million (ppm) up to 3.27 ppm (8). Using tobacco as a model for pesticide retention, it is probable a considerable amount of myclobutanil may remain present in cannabis weeks after fungicide application.

II. Inhalation of pyrolized myclobutanil residue could expose cannabis users to hydrogen cyanide
As noted on the Eagle 20 material safety data sheet(3), myclobutanil is stable at room temperature, but releases highly toxic gas if heated past its boiling point of 205°C (401°F) (3, 9). Disposable butane lighters, commonly used to ignite marijuana during consumption, produce temperatures in excess of 450°C.


Figure 1. Chemical structure of myclobutanil and decomposition products. Cyanide moiety indicated in red, chlorine indicated in green, and triazole moiety indicated in blue.

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As shown in Figure 1 above, myclobutanil decomposes, its triazole (Figure 1, blue), cyanide (Figure 1, red) and chlorine (Figure 1, green) moieties are released and form toxic gases, including hydrogen cyanide (HCN) and hydrochloric gas (HCl). Of the three primary decomposition products formed, HCN holds the greatest concern. Chronic exposure to dilute hydrogen cyanide (ex. 0.008 parts per million) is not immediately deadly (10), but is known to cause serious neurological, respiratory, cardiovascular, and thyroid problems (11, 12, 13). Cannabis retaining even marginal amounts of myclobutanil (ex. 0.03 ppm) could potentially expose consumers to non-lethal, but clinically relevant levels of HCN.

III. Myclobutanil is co-extracted with cannabinoids during concentrate production
Studies of two other conazole fungicides, tebuconazole and propiconazole, have demonstrated that these chemicals are co-extracted during production of essential oils (14). Moreover, the process of extraction, treatment, and concentration can cause tebuconazole and propiconazole pesticide residue to accumulate at levels 250 times higher than the starting material (14). Myclobutanil is highly soluble in many of the solvents used in cannabinoid extraction (ex. ethanol, butane, and carbon dioxide)(15,16), and unquestionably co-extracts with cannabinoids during concentrate production. The process of removing residual solvent and increasing cannabinoid concentration very likely increases levels of myclobutanil, and other chemically-similar pesticides.

Conclusion
The Colorado Department of Agriculture has identified and published a list of "minimum risk pesticides" that pose little or no risk to human health (18) and are allowable for use on marijuana during cultivation. Eagle 20 (myclobutanil) is not on this list, but the absence of regulatory oversight has contributed to its widespread use in marijuana cultivation in Colorado.

Federal guidance is unlikely, given the legal status of marijuana. It falls on Colorado to build on the guidelines issued by the CDA to implement more stringent regulation, including pesticide residue testing, to prevent tainted product from reaching the open marketplace and consumers.

http://www.coloradogreenlab.com/blo...ntext-of-cannabis-cultivation-and-consumption
 
Bro I hate seeing shit about E20 effects because I know I got some bad things coming my way already from getting into that stuff. Sucks that it was ever brought to the forums. Worst part, I got mine in an unmarked container from the grow shop...no instructions or warnings.
 
yes, "but when used properly" is the important part. It stays in the plant for 2-4 weeks. don't spray your plants in flower with it. period. Wait a month or a bit longer before you flower out any plants sprayed with it. why is that so difficult?
 
I have seen allot of people get cancer that barely even used the stuff ... This is a reason why I do not puff other peoples flower ever ...
 
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