bimblebrains_1
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Hey folks
I thought I would start a thread to discuss further the topic of how rife this viriod' is in the community after signing up the other day and seeing a few pics on here.
I commented on the post linked below in POTM and it started quite a discussion albeit not the place for such a topic,hence this thread... I have just copied and pasted my original post just to start things off and I will get some photos of high virial load plants compared to the same clone expressing in a more normal way for reference,anyhow I hope people will chime in with pics and thoughts as well so we can put this problem to the forefront of people's minds a bit more because once you know it ,you see that shit EVERYWHERE,.......cheers bimble
I don't mean to sound or come across as negative or offend anybody but these plants right here ^^^^^^ are exhibiting moderate symptoms of HLVD 100% ..I have just spent the last year or so working with people who are in the hype cuttings game and have literally watched different varieties arrive ,kept in same mum room,cloned,ran for production and over the course of 6 to 12 months go from bulbus running kolas (or however they normally express) i.e normal flowers and tops to a shadow of their former selves,popcorn nubby type tops, curling out or up leaves are 2 main signs,they end up looking exactly like the plant pictured above,no matter what clone,all with that same look,(if they are a susceptible that is) some Varieties are tolerant or more tolerable to the viroid. I don't wanna shit everyone up but this viriod' is more prevalent than most people realise,it's everywhere and it's a sneaky fucker, notice how one of the tops is trying to become a normal shaped Kola to the left hand side of one of the pictures? Not kone shaped and nubby like the rest,well thats because that particular part of the plant has less viral load than the rest,you can get lucky and get a clone from a branch of a mum that will test undetectable on an infected plant.I have learned to work around it by culling young rooted cuttings showing more symptoms of viral load in big populations and then most of the others pull thru and express ok but some are ranging from dwarf mutants to lanky pieces of shit with curly leaves and zero terps...the scary thing is the plants above are seed plants,this shit can be passed on from infected seeded mums to the offspring too,that's why I say it's probably in everyone's garden by now,even if you have bought seeds online in last 10/15 years and not traded any Clones. The hops industry has never been able to eradicate this they have just learned to work with somewhat tolerant varieties and this is what we must do, because unless your have your own TC facility and test all the time,even if you pay 000's of dollars for a scrubbed clone then chances are as a homegrower or hobbiest you will reinfect it in no time. The cheese for instance which i uploaded a pic of is a tolerant invidiual,the people I got her from had held her 20+years,she shines and expresses perfectly where I am at surrounded by all these modern cuts all looking like aids patients but would still pass on the virus like a spreader,I'm telling you folks if you want resistance then don't look towards any this sherb/cookie type bullshit, weak gene's and stop breeding with it.... sorry for the rant but it's worse than everyone realises and we need to wise up as a community....
I thought I would start a thread to discuss further the topic of how rife this viriod' is in the community after signing up the other day and seeing a few pics on here.
I commented on the post linked below in POTM and it started quite a discussion albeit not the place for such a topic,hence this thread... I have just copied and pasted my original post just to start things off and I will get some photos of high virial load plants compared to the same clone expressing in a more normal way for reference,anyhow I hope people will chime in with pics and thoughts as well so we can put this problem to the forefront of people's minds a bit more because once you know it ,you see that shit EVERYWHERE,.......cheers bimble
I don't mean to sound or come across as negative or offend anybody but these plants right here ^^^^^^ are exhibiting moderate symptoms of HLVD 100% ..I have just spent the last year or so working with people who are in the hype cuttings game and have literally watched different varieties arrive ,kept in same mum room,cloned,ran for production and over the course of 6 to 12 months go from bulbus running kolas (or however they normally express) i.e normal flowers and tops to a shadow of their former selves,popcorn nubby type tops, curling out or up leaves are 2 main signs,they end up looking exactly like the plant pictured above,no matter what clone,all with that same look,(if they are a susceptible that is) some Varieties are tolerant or more tolerable to the viroid. I don't wanna shit everyone up but this viriod' is more prevalent than most people realise,it's everywhere and it's a sneaky fucker, notice how one of the tops is trying to become a normal shaped Kola to the left hand side of one of the pictures? Not kone shaped and nubby like the rest,well thats because that particular part of the plant has less viral load than the rest,you can get lucky and get a clone from a branch of a mum that will test undetectable on an infected plant.I have learned to work around it by culling young rooted cuttings showing more symptoms of viral load in big populations and then most of the others pull thru and express ok but some are ranging from dwarf mutants to lanky pieces of shit with curly leaves and zero terps...the scary thing is the plants above are seed plants,this shit can be passed on from infected seeded mums to the offspring too,that's why I say it's probably in everyone's garden by now,even if you have bought seeds online in last 10/15 years and not traded any Clones. The hops industry has never been able to eradicate this they have just learned to work with somewhat tolerant varieties and this is what we must do, because unless your have your own TC facility and test all the time,even if you pay 000's of dollars for a scrubbed clone then chances are as a homegrower or hobbiest you will reinfect it in no time. The cheese for instance which i uploaded a pic of is a tolerant invidiual,the people I got her from had held her 20+years,she shines and expresses perfectly where I am at surrounded by all these modern cuts all looking like aids patients but would still pass on the virus like a spreader,I'm telling you folks if you want resistance then don't look towards any this sherb/cookie type bullshit, weak gene's and stop breeding with it.... sorry for the rant but it's worse than everyone realises and we need to wise up as a community....
