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STANDARD SMOKE REPORT V1.0
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IDENTIFICATION
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Enter username or anon for judge in the square brackets. Enter date in
universal format dd-Mmm-yyyy ie 10-Dec-2003. Enter strain name without
abbreviations and with spaces where appropriate. Use username, company
name or anon for the breeder and grower fields as appropriate.
Judge: [steelcanaries]
Date: [09-12-2014]
Strain: ["Bub's Dogbud" (91 chemdog (skunk va original cut) x reversed original Bubba Kush]
Breeder:[Nspecta @ CSI Humboldt genetics]
Grower: [an older gentleman ;)]
If available enter the links to the following threads:
Grow Report: []
Breeder Report: []
Related thread: [https://thecannacabana.com/forums/showthread.php?t=35022]
Cured bud photo:[n/a]
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PHYSICAL EXAMINATION
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1. __[8.5]__ Visual Appeal
Rate the visual appeal of the buds from 1-10 unappealing-excellent.
2. __[8.5]__ Visible Trichomes
Rate the visible trichome content from 1-10 none-totally covered.
3. Use an X to indicate the colors that are present in the trichome
heads under magnification or list the percentages of each color for
a more precise report. Leave these fields blank if you do not have
a powerful magnifier.
Clear [x]
Cloudy [x]
Amber []
Dark []
4. Mark with X the colors that are present in the buds or for a more
detailed color analysis rate presence on a scale 1-9 light-dark.
Brown []
Green [x]
Gold []
Blue []
Grey []
White [x]
Red []
Rust []
Orange [x]
Purple []
Black []
5. __[8]__ Bud density
Rate the bud density from 1-10 airy-dense. For samples that are
not in their natural state leave this field blank.
6. Use numbers 1-9 on descriptors that apply to the aroma of freshly
broken bud where a one indicates a subtle presence and 9 indicates
a pronounced presence. Delete the existing space when marking a
descriptor in order to maintain the columns in alignment.
Ammonia [ ] Earthy [ x] Licorice [ ] Peach [ ]
Berry [ ] Floral [ ] Mango [ ] Pepper [ ]
Blueberry [ ] Fruit [ ] Meat [ ] Petroleum [x ]
Bubblegum [ ] Grape [ ] Melon [ ] Pine [x ]
Cedar [ ] Grapefruit[ ] Menthol [x ] Pineapple [ ]
Cherry [ ] Grass/Hay [ ] Mint [ ] Rotten [ ]
Chocolate [ ] Hash [ ] Mold [ ] Skunk [ ]
Citrus [x ] Iron/Rust [ ] Musk [ ] Spice [ ]
Coconut [ ] Leather [ ] Nutmeg [ ] Strawberry[ ]
Coffee [ ] Lemon [ ] Orange [ ] Vanilla [ ]
7. __[9]__ Aroma
Rate the aroma from 1-10 repulsive-delightful. Use freshly crumbled
bud for best results.
8. __[0]__ Seed content
Rate seed content from 0-10 none-fully seeded.
9. __[n/a]__ Weeks cured
If known enter the number of weeks your sample has been cured.
If desired repeat SSR after an additional two weeks of curing.
PHYSICAL EXAMINATION COMMENTS: early test sample cut at 8 weeks....real sticky, and strong dank, afghanica diesel, mentholyptus, green apple, intense smell with matching throat coating flavor....the flavor is complex....seems to almost change with every hit, reminding you of menthol, one time and apple jolly ranchers the next....the after taste is a thick and lingering mentholyptus type lip smacking alpine fresh goodness, if that makes sense lol its rich and delicious.....like dessert herb.....this pheno is highly afghani dominant, and doesnt want to branch out when topped....the color is that intense green chemdog color (diesel color) and the glands or pods are the largest out of all the phenos tested so far.....am interested in running again, un topped in a sog style, just to see what its like with this pheno.....on all levels, looks, smell, taste, and strength of stone, these genes imo are of very high quality....
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THE SMOKE TEST
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Address these questions while smoking.
1. Please use a clean instrument for the evaluation. Enter information
below that will identify the instrument as follows:
Water pipe (enter bong, hooka, bubbler etc) small bong
Vaporizer (enter the brand name)
Pipe (size-type, ie medium-glass) clean glass pipe...travel size..
Joint (enter brand of papers)
Other (specify)
Water pipe [x]
Vaporizer []
Pipe [x]
Joint []
Other []
2. Use numbers 1-9 on descriptors that apply to the taste where a one
indicates a subtle presence and a nine indicates a very pronounced
presence. Delete the existing space when marking a descriptor in
order to maintain the columns in alignment.
Ammonia [ ] Earthy [ ] Licorice [ ] Peach [ ]
Berry [ ] Floral [ ] Mango [ ] Pepper [ ]
Blueberry [ ] Fruit [ ] Meat [ ] Petroleum [8 ]
Bubblegum [ ] Grape [ ] Melon [ 7] Pine [8 ]
Cedar [ ] Grapefruit[ ] Menthol [8 ] Pineapple [ ]
Cherry [ ] Grass/Hay [ ] Mint [ ] Rotten [ ]
Chocolate [ ] Hash [ ] Mold [ ] Skunk [ ]
Citrus [7 ] Iron/Rust [ ] Musk [ ] Spice [ ]
Coconut [ ] Leather [ ] Nutmeg [ ] Strawberry[ ]
Coffee [ ] Lemon [ 6] Orange [ ] Vanilla [ ]
If appropriate return to this question after 5-10 minutes and mark
with X any unmarked descriptors for lingering aftertaste.
3. __[9]__ Taste
Rate your impression of the taste from 1-10 unpleasant-delicious.
4. __[2]__ State of dryness
Rate the dryness of the bud from 1-10 wet-dry where 5 is ideal.
5. __[7]__ Smoke ability
Rate the smoke ability of the sample from 1-10 harsh-smooth.
6. __[2]__ Smoke expansion
Rate how the smoke expands in the lungs from 1-10 stable-explodes.
SMOKE TEST COMMENTS: this is gonna be different, after i actually harvest, dry, and cure this special lil lady....the sample being smoked today is the 8 week sample...at 63 or days.....the smoke will be smoother, stone stronger, and once slowly dried and its been in the jar for at least a couple weeks, its gonna pop like crazy, i just know it.....Is this what Irene is like? cause this is some tasty tasty, cant put my finger on it, super diesely, dank flavor.....reminds a lil bit of the first time i tasted the sour bubble bx1 i ran years ago....the flavor is unique.....memorable......and long lasting.....the stone is very narcotic, body rocker....great rich, dessert, evening, sleep meds, with the added effect of the menthol beard effect....a real flavor to savor...delicious....top shelf connisseur, hide it and keep it for your self kinda smoke lol....
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FOLLOW UP QUESTIONS
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Address final questions immediately after effects have worn off.
1. __[two bong hits, or a few clean glass pipe hits every so often, myu tolerance is pretty high, and i puff too much haha this dosage is potent and long lasting]__ Dosage
Enter the number of hits taken to reach desired effects.
2. __[flavor and sensation of strains narcotic effect are felt on the first hit....]__ Effect onset
Rate how quickly the effect hit from 1-10 immediate-major creeper.
3. __[next to none on this pheno, although it had me gigglin like a piglet and super stoned and chatty, with an added excitement, so maybe there is a heady sativa effect, but the narcotic body stone is the most pronounced feature of the high to me thus far]__ Sativa influence
Rate the sativa influence detected from 0-10 none-extreme. Sativa
influence is best described as a clear and energetic mental effect.
4. __[9]__ Indica influence
Rate the indica influence detected from 0-10 none-extreme. Indica
influence is best described as a sedative, lethargic or numbing
effect that affects the body.
5. __[8.5]__ Potency
Rate the potency of the sample from 0-10 none-devastating.
6. __[8]__ Duration
Indicate the number of hours the effects lasted.
7. __[]__ Tolerance build up
Rate how quickly tolerance builds from 0-10 none-rapid. Leave this
field blank if you have not used this sample repeatedly.
8. Usability
Rate on a scale of 1-9 where a one indicates the worst time of day
to consume this strain and a nine represents the ideal time of day.
Leave field(s) blank if you have not yet formed an opinion.
Morning - wake up [0]
Day - work [0]
Evening - relax [9]
Night - sleep [9]
9. __[9.5]__ Overall satisfaction
Rate your overall satisfaction from 1-10 poor-Holy Grail.
10. __[8]__ Ability and conditions
. Rate your overall ability to judge from 1-10 low-high. Consider
experience, strain familiarity, atmosphere, current tolerance and
most importantly the condition and preparation of the sample.
11.Judging from the sample alone do you personally consider this
strain a keeper for long term use?
Yes [x] for the loud, intense, and interesting flavor and medicinal body stone qualities...
No []
12.Rate the noticable effects on a scale of 1-9 mild-severe. Take
care to use the appropriate column for your response. Delete the
existing space when recording your entry to maintain the columns
in alignment. In all cases these casual observations should not
be construed as medical advice.
Negative Positive
Effect Effect
__[ ]__ __[x ]__ Appetite
__[ ]__ __[ x]__ Anxiety relief
__[ ]__ __[x ]__ Paranoia relief
__[ ]__ __[ ]__ Sex drive
__[ ]__ __[x ]__ Sleep
__[ ]__ __[ ]__ Pain relief
__[ ]__ __[ x]__ Ability to rest or sit still
__[ ]__ __[ ]__ Thought process
__[ ]__ __[ ]__ Speech process
__[ ]__ __[x ]__ Imagination/creativity
__[ ]__ __[ x]__ Humor perception
__[ ]__ __[ ]__ Visual perception
__[ ]__ __[ ]__ Audio perception
__[ ]__ __[ x]__ Taste perception
EXTENDED MEDICAL SURVEY (optional)
Negative Positive
Effect Effect
__[ ]__ __[ ]__ Alcoholism/Alcohol Abuse
__[ ]__ __[ ]__ Allergic rhinitis
__[ ]__ __[ ]__ Amphetamine Dependence
__[ ]__ __[ x]__ Anorexia
__[ ]__ __[ ]__ Arthritis/Musculoskeletar pain
__[ ]__ __[ ]__ Asthma/Cough
__[ ]__ __[x ]__ Bipolar disorder
__[ ]__ __[ x]__ Cancer/Cancer Chemotherapy
__[ ]__ __[ x]__ Chronic fatigue
__[ ]__ __[ x]__ Depression
__[ ]__ __[ ]__ Diarrhea
__[ ]__ __[ ]__ Drusen of Optic Nerve
__[ ]__ __[ ]__ Epilepsy
__[ ]__ __[ ]__ Glaucoma
__[ ]__ __[ ]__ Hiccough
__[ ]__ __[ ]__ High blood pressure/Racing pulse
__[ ]__ __[ x]__ Insomnia
__[ ]__ __[ ]__ Itching
__[ ]__ __[ ]__ Migraine/vascular headache
__[ ]__ __[ ]__ Muscle Spasm
__[ ]__ __[ ]__ Muscular movement disorders
__[ ]__ __[ x]__ Nausea
__[ ]__ __[x ]__ Panic Attacks
__[ ]__ __[ ]__ Peripheral nerve pain
__[ ]__ __[ x]__ Post traumatic Stress Disorder
__[ ]__ __[ ]__ Pre Menstrual Syndrome
__[ ]__ __[ x]__ Sedative/Opiate Dependence
__[ ]__ __[ ]__ Schizophrenia
__[ ]__ __[ ]__ SLE - systemic lupus erythematosus
__[ ]__ __[ ]__ Spasticity in Multiple Sclerosis
FINAL COMMENTS: this pheno of Csi Humboldts Chem91SVA x Bubba Kush aka "Bubba's Dogbud" has a very medicinal indica body stone that is a great evening smoke, with incredible pleasing and refreshing flavor that lasts and lasts, with strong, narcotic body stone which seems to be great for insomnia, appetite stimulation, anxiety, and puts you in a happy, talkative and giddy mood, while relaxing the mind and body to help wind down from the day and hit the hay.....I look forward to keeping this variety around as it is not only special in effect on a medicinal level (I actually took less pills for my insomnia last night, because of this herb) but also in the flavor department, which is nice for a change....this bud has a personality and character all its own....the flavor isnt boring or non existant, its delicious, not flat, hard to put your finger on, but you feel you know it but cant quite guess what it is, but you like cause it actually tastes delicious, and wont give you the yuck mouth, like say....chem 4 can do at times.....top shelf variety... a recommended addtion to any herbalist's collection......timeless....be blessed, steel
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IDENTIFICATION
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Enter username or anon for judge in the square brackets. Enter date in
universal format dd-Mmm-yyyy ie 10-Dec-2003. Enter strain name without
abbreviations and with spaces where appropriate. Use username, company
name or anon for the breeder and grower fields as appropriate.
Judge: [steelcanaries]
Date: [09-12-2014]
Strain: ["Bub's Dogbud" (91 chemdog (skunk va original cut) x reversed original Bubba Kush]
Breeder:[Nspecta @ CSI Humboldt genetics]
Grower: [an older gentleman ;)]
If available enter the links to the following threads:
Grow Report: []
Breeder Report: []
Related thread: [https://thecannacabana.com/forums/showthread.php?t=35022]
Cured bud photo:[n/a]
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PHYSICAL EXAMINATION
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1. __[8.5]__ Visual Appeal
Rate the visual appeal of the buds from 1-10 unappealing-excellent.
2. __[8.5]__ Visible Trichomes
Rate the visible trichome content from 1-10 none-totally covered.
3. Use an X to indicate the colors that are present in the trichome
heads under magnification or list the percentages of each color for
a more precise report. Leave these fields blank if you do not have
a powerful magnifier.
Clear [x]
Cloudy [x]
Amber []
Dark []
4. Mark with X the colors that are present in the buds or for a more
detailed color analysis rate presence on a scale 1-9 light-dark.
Brown []
Green [x]
Gold []
Blue []
Grey []
White [x]
Red []
Rust []
Orange [x]
Purple []
Black []
5. __[8]__ Bud density
Rate the bud density from 1-10 airy-dense. For samples that are
not in their natural state leave this field blank.
6. Use numbers 1-9 on descriptors that apply to the aroma of freshly
broken bud where a one indicates a subtle presence and 9 indicates
a pronounced presence. Delete the existing space when marking a
descriptor in order to maintain the columns in alignment.
Ammonia [ ] Earthy [ x] Licorice [ ] Peach [ ]
Berry [ ] Floral [ ] Mango [ ] Pepper [ ]
Blueberry [ ] Fruit [ ] Meat [ ] Petroleum [x ]
Bubblegum [ ] Grape [ ] Melon [ ] Pine [x ]
Cedar [ ] Grapefruit[ ] Menthol [x ] Pineapple [ ]
Cherry [ ] Grass/Hay [ ] Mint [ ] Rotten [ ]
Chocolate [ ] Hash [ ] Mold [ ] Skunk [ ]
Citrus [x ] Iron/Rust [ ] Musk [ ] Spice [ ]
Coconut [ ] Leather [ ] Nutmeg [ ] Strawberry[ ]
Coffee [ ] Lemon [ ] Orange [ ] Vanilla [ ]
7. __[9]__ Aroma
Rate the aroma from 1-10 repulsive-delightful. Use freshly crumbled
bud for best results.
8. __[0]__ Seed content
Rate seed content from 0-10 none-fully seeded.
9. __[n/a]__ Weeks cured
If known enter the number of weeks your sample has been cured.
If desired repeat SSR after an additional two weeks of curing.
PHYSICAL EXAMINATION COMMENTS: early test sample cut at 8 weeks....real sticky, and strong dank, afghanica diesel, mentholyptus, green apple, intense smell with matching throat coating flavor....the flavor is complex....seems to almost change with every hit, reminding you of menthol, one time and apple jolly ranchers the next....the after taste is a thick and lingering mentholyptus type lip smacking alpine fresh goodness, if that makes sense lol its rich and delicious.....like dessert herb.....this pheno is highly afghani dominant, and doesnt want to branch out when topped....the color is that intense green chemdog color (diesel color) and the glands or pods are the largest out of all the phenos tested so far.....am interested in running again, un topped in a sog style, just to see what its like with this pheno.....on all levels, looks, smell, taste, and strength of stone, these genes imo are of very high quality....
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THE SMOKE TEST
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Address these questions while smoking.
1. Please use a clean instrument for the evaluation. Enter information
below that will identify the instrument as follows:
Water pipe (enter bong, hooka, bubbler etc) small bong
Vaporizer (enter the brand name)
Pipe (size-type, ie medium-glass) clean glass pipe...travel size..
Joint (enter brand of papers)
Other (specify)
Water pipe [x]
Vaporizer []
Pipe [x]
Joint []
Other []
2. Use numbers 1-9 on descriptors that apply to the taste where a one
indicates a subtle presence and a nine indicates a very pronounced
presence. Delete the existing space when marking a descriptor in
order to maintain the columns in alignment.
Ammonia [ ] Earthy [ ] Licorice [ ] Peach [ ]
Berry [ ] Floral [ ] Mango [ ] Pepper [ ]
Blueberry [ ] Fruit [ ] Meat [ ] Petroleum [8 ]
Bubblegum [ ] Grape [ ] Melon [ 7] Pine [8 ]
Cedar [ ] Grapefruit[ ] Menthol [8 ] Pineapple [ ]
Cherry [ ] Grass/Hay [ ] Mint [ ] Rotten [ ]
Chocolate [ ] Hash [ ] Mold [ ] Skunk [ ]
Citrus [7 ] Iron/Rust [ ] Musk [ ] Spice [ ]
Coconut [ ] Leather [ ] Nutmeg [ ] Strawberry[ ]
Coffee [ ] Lemon [ 6] Orange [ ] Vanilla [ ]
If appropriate return to this question after 5-10 minutes and mark
with X any unmarked descriptors for lingering aftertaste.
3. __[9]__ Taste
Rate your impression of the taste from 1-10 unpleasant-delicious.
4. __[2]__ State of dryness
Rate the dryness of the bud from 1-10 wet-dry where 5 is ideal.
5. __[7]__ Smoke ability
Rate the smoke ability of the sample from 1-10 harsh-smooth.
6. __[2]__ Smoke expansion
Rate how the smoke expands in the lungs from 1-10 stable-explodes.
SMOKE TEST COMMENTS: this is gonna be different, after i actually harvest, dry, and cure this special lil lady....the sample being smoked today is the 8 week sample...at 63 or days.....the smoke will be smoother, stone stronger, and once slowly dried and its been in the jar for at least a couple weeks, its gonna pop like crazy, i just know it.....Is this what Irene is like? cause this is some tasty tasty, cant put my finger on it, super diesely, dank flavor.....reminds a lil bit of the first time i tasted the sour bubble bx1 i ran years ago....the flavor is unique.....memorable......and long lasting.....the stone is very narcotic, body rocker....great rich, dessert, evening, sleep meds, with the added effect of the menthol beard effect....a real flavor to savor...delicious....top shelf connisseur, hide it and keep it for your self kinda smoke lol....
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FOLLOW UP QUESTIONS
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Address final questions immediately after effects have worn off.
1. __[two bong hits, or a few clean glass pipe hits every so often, myu tolerance is pretty high, and i puff too much haha this dosage is potent and long lasting]__ Dosage
Enter the number of hits taken to reach desired effects.
2. __[flavor and sensation of strains narcotic effect are felt on the first hit....]__ Effect onset
Rate how quickly the effect hit from 1-10 immediate-major creeper.
3. __[next to none on this pheno, although it had me gigglin like a piglet and super stoned and chatty, with an added excitement, so maybe there is a heady sativa effect, but the narcotic body stone is the most pronounced feature of the high to me thus far]__ Sativa influence
Rate the sativa influence detected from 0-10 none-extreme. Sativa
influence is best described as a clear and energetic mental effect.
4. __[9]__ Indica influence
Rate the indica influence detected from 0-10 none-extreme. Indica
influence is best described as a sedative, lethargic or numbing
effect that affects the body.
5. __[8.5]__ Potency
Rate the potency of the sample from 0-10 none-devastating.
6. __[8]__ Duration
Indicate the number of hours the effects lasted.
7. __[]__ Tolerance build up
Rate how quickly tolerance builds from 0-10 none-rapid. Leave this
field blank if you have not used this sample repeatedly.
8. Usability
Rate on a scale of 1-9 where a one indicates the worst time of day
to consume this strain and a nine represents the ideal time of day.
Leave field(s) blank if you have not yet formed an opinion.
Morning - wake up [0]
Day - work [0]
Evening - relax [9]
Night - sleep [9]
9. __[9.5]__ Overall satisfaction
Rate your overall satisfaction from 1-10 poor-Holy Grail.
10. __[8]__ Ability and conditions
. Rate your overall ability to judge from 1-10 low-high. Consider
experience, strain familiarity, atmosphere, current tolerance and
most importantly the condition and preparation of the sample.
11.Judging from the sample alone do you personally consider this
strain a keeper for long term use?
Yes [x] for the loud, intense, and interesting flavor and medicinal body stone qualities...
No []
12.Rate the noticable effects on a scale of 1-9 mild-severe. Take
care to use the appropriate column for your response. Delete the
existing space when recording your entry to maintain the columns
in alignment. In all cases these casual observations should not
be construed as medical advice.
Negative Positive
Effect Effect
__[ ]__ __[x ]__ Appetite
__[ ]__ __[ x]__ Anxiety relief
__[ ]__ __[x ]__ Paranoia relief
__[ ]__ __[ ]__ Sex drive
__[ ]__ __[x ]__ Sleep
__[ ]__ __[ ]__ Pain relief
__[ ]__ __[ x]__ Ability to rest or sit still
__[ ]__ __[ ]__ Thought process
__[ ]__ __[ ]__ Speech process
__[ ]__ __[x ]__ Imagination/creativity
__[ ]__ __[ x]__ Humor perception
__[ ]__ __[ ]__ Visual perception
__[ ]__ __[ ]__ Audio perception
__[ ]__ __[ x]__ Taste perception
EXTENDED MEDICAL SURVEY (optional)
Negative Positive
Effect Effect
__[ ]__ __[ ]__ Alcoholism/Alcohol Abuse
__[ ]__ __[ ]__ Allergic rhinitis
__[ ]__ __[ ]__ Amphetamine Dependence
__[ ]__ __[ x]__ Anorexia
__[ ]__ __[ ]__ Arthritis/Musculoskeletar pain
__[ ]__ __[ ]__ Asthma/Cough
__[ ]__ __[x ]__ Bipolar disorder
__[ ]__ __[ x]__ Cancer/Cancer Chemotherapy
__[ ]__ __[ x]__ Chronic fatigue
__[ ]__ __[ x]__ Depression
__[ ]__ __[ ]__ Diarrhea
__[ ]__ __[ ]__ Drusen of Optic Nerve
__[ ]__ __[ ]__ Epilepsy
__[ ]__ __[ ]__ Glaucoma
__[ ]__ __[ ]__ Hiccough
__[ ]__ __[ ]__ High blood pressure/Racing pulse
__[ ]__ __[ x]__ Insomnia
__[ ]__ __[ ]__ Itching
__[ ]__ __[ ]__ Migraine/vascular headache
__[ ]__ __[ ]__ Muscle Spasm
__[ ]__ __[ ]__ Muscular movement disorders
__[ ]__ __[ x]__ Nausea
__[ ]__ __[x ]__ Panic Attacks
__[ ]__ __[ ]__ Peripheral nerve pain
__[ ]__ __[ x]__ Post traumatic Stress Disorder
__[ ]__ __[ ]__ Pre Menstrual Syndrome
__[ ]__ __[ x]__ Sedative/Opiate Dependence
__[ ]__ __[ ]__ Schizophrenia
__[ ]__ __[ ]__ SLE - systemic lupus erythematosus
__[ ]__ __[ ]__ Spasticity in Multiple Sclerosis
FINAL COMMENTS: this pheno of Csi Humboldts Chem91SVA x Bubba Kush aka "Bubba's Dogbud" has a very medicinal indica body stone that is a great evening smoke, with incredible pleasing and refreshing flavor that lasts and lasts, with strong, narcotic body stone which seems to be great for insomnia, appetite stimulation, anxiety, and puts you in a happy, talkative and giddy mood, while relaxing the mind and body to help wind down from the day and hit the hay.....I look forward to keeping this variety around as it is not only special in effect on a medicinal level (I actually took less pills for my insomnia last night, because of this herb) but also in the flavor department, which is nice for a change....this bud has a personality and character all its own....the flavor isnt boring or non existant, its delicious, not flat, hard to put your finger on, but you feel you know it but cant quite guess what it is, but you like cause it actually tastes delicious, and wont give you the yuck mouth, like say....chem 4 can do at times.....top shelf variety... a recommended addtion to any herbalist's collection......timeless....be blessed, steel
